Rick Warren Agrees Not to Evangelize Muslims

I have never met Rick Warren the pastor of Saddleback church in CA.  I understand he is always looking for an unorthodox way to reach people. I am all for that. There are many people around us from different backgrounds and beliefs.  

However, there is always a danger for any of us as teachers of God’s word to cross the line.  I do not have anything against Mr. Warren as a person, and yet I do have a huge disagreement to his approach and belief on how to reach Muslims. Growing up as a Muslim in the Middle East, I also have insights Mr. Warren does not.

An Islamic website published and article on Feb 26th titled: King’s Way Unites US Evangelicals, Muslims as well The Orange County Register published an article on Feb 23 titled: Rick Warren builds bridges to Muslims in which Mr. Warren started a new outreach program called “King’s Way.” According to the article, Mr. Warren has found favor with various Muslim leaders and apparently is one of the few evangelical pastors (an influential one mind you) doing this kind of outreach to Muslim Imams and the Muslim community.  In the process, the article says:

“The Rev. Rick Warren, pastor of Saddleback Church in Lake Forest and one of America’s most influential Christian leaders, has embarked on an effort to heal divisions between evangelical Christians and Muslims by partnering with Southern California mosques and proposing a set of theological principles that includes acknowledging that Christians and Muslims worship the same God.”[Italics my own]

As a Christian from a Muslim background I know for sure that YHWH is NOT Allah. It seems that American Christian leaders have adopted a “Nice Theology” at all cost, even at the cost of the identity of Jesus Christ. If Mr. Warren agrees on the same god Allah, then one must ask, “Does he believe that Jesus of the Bible is the same Jesus (Isa) of the Qur’an as well?” I can assure you, they are NOT.

This approach is a one-way street. You never see Muslims or Imams do this.  Growing up as a Muslim, we were taught that the God of the Christian was not Allah. This belief is well known in the Muslim world. Muslims in the west go along with this ignorance because there is an agenda to spread Islam. People like Mr. Warren are helping this agenda by his own naive belief and approaches.  This makes me sad, insulted, and I know God is not pleased with this type of compromise.

The article further states:

“Warren has faced criticism from some evangelicals for his outreach to Muslims. Late last year, he issued a statement flatly denying rumors that he promulgates what critics term “Chrislam,” a merging of Islam and Christianity. The “rumor is 100 percent false,” Warren wrote at Pastors.com, a website he founded that provides practical advice to church leaders. “My life and ministry are built on the truth that Jesus is the only way, and our inerrant Bible is our only true authority.””

On one hand, he says Jesus is the only way, on the other, he agrees with the Muslims by saying we worship the same God.  Which is it Mr. Warren? It seems that he has divorced God the Father from the Son.  Jesus is God and God is Jesus. Mr. Warren does not have the luxury to separate the two when dealing with Muslims.  Of course in his website and answering criticisms like this post, he will say that he believes in the Holy Triune God. But, his actions and words when dealing with Muslims tell me otherwise.  There are three issues that are raised in my mind:

  1. I have misunderstood Mr. Warren’s words and claim, and he needs to come out in public and show clearly why the Christian and Jewish teachings of YHWH and the Muslim teachings of Allah have a very long history of a totally different view of God.
  2. Does Mr Warren believe that Jesus and the Father are not the one, as Islamic writings teach, or that they are one, as the authors of the New Testament writings present?
  3. If his involvement in this outreach comes from a huge ignorance about Islam, the Qur’an, the Hadith (Islamic Traditions) and the Sira (Muhammad’s Bio), how much harm is being done in the name of “tolerance” and “unity”?

These kinds of activities are not helping the church or America.

In the Middle East, it is a custom to celebrate the death of a child who has taken their own life in an act of jihad against the infidel by the use of a suicide bomb to kill Christians and Jews, the “infidels”.

This teaching is at the heart of Islam. It is also a teaching that is polar opposite of the teachings from the Scriptures and from the lives of Christian martyrs for almost 2,000 years, where being willing to die for your faith at the demands of violent tyrants is well known historic fact the world over.

I will make one final point. As an evangelical pastor, I would assume that Mr. Warren would agree that Christ word’s from the Gospel’s compels him to see men and women come to Christ and leave false teachings. If so, what should Mr. Warren make of this quote by Imam Jihad Turk, director of religious affairs at a mosque in Los Angeles?

“We agreed we wouldn’t try to evangelize each other,” said Turk. “We’d witness to each other but it would be out of ‘Love Thy Neighbor,’ not focused on conversion.”

By agreeing NOT to evangelize Muslims with the desire that they come to faith in Christ, a direct violation of the Great Commission commanded by our Lord Jesus Christ in Matt: 28:16-20, are we not siding with Islam, and standing against YHWH? In the Old Testament, a mixture of other religions with the teachings of YHWH always brought judgment.  I see no reason to believe that developing political correct plans in the name of tolerance today should not still bring about judgments from YHWH.

If Mr. Warren still confused about Islamic theology, I would advise him to go to these websites that will educate him and his staff:

Living Oasis Ministries; Answering Islam; Engaging Islam; Political Islam

Wake up American Church, you have been led by confused and uninformed leaders.




The Grand Jihad, & Failure of US Leadership

Democrat leaders testify:

As many Muslims come to America to escape Sharia law, they find Democrat leaders, James Clapper and Hillary Clinton testifying in congress in 2010 that the Muslim Brotherhood (MB) in Egypt is mainly secular and harmless. They claimed that it is good for Egypt and democracy that the Muslim Brotherhood participates in the democratic process during the Arab Spring of 2010.  Well, it does not seem to work very well does it?  Egypt already been taken over by the MB with over 70% of the parliament membership. We are already seeing the effect of the MB infiltration into our nation, as we are Loosing freedom of speech in U.S. universities.  We are also seeing American institutions are bowing down to Islamic Sharia in America such as “The American Bar Association For Jihad”.  What a great “welcome to America” when the leaders of the country of refuge aligns with the barbarians you had fled.

Some History as narrated by Bill Whittle for Encounter Books

Due to Obama and His Behavior Towards Egypt;  Egypt is already showing signs of anti-American policy that will not be beneficial to American National Security.  So much for Obama kissing the Islamic hands to make them like us.  Every American must ask:


Why is Obama promoting the Muslim Brotherhood?

To those who voted for Obama and those who had doubts about the direction he is taking America, the events in Egypt should shed some light on to the answer to this question. The Muslim Brother hood was outlawed in Egypt by Mubarak for sometime ago now. So, they decided to forgo so-called “violence” in Egypt. They did not have much clout politically, but they did to a certain extent have a presence among the population. The current events in Egypt did not give them much platform until the American president gave them the platform they dreamed of.

In 2009 ‘Obama met Muslim Brotherhood members in U.S.’ He also arranged to meet with 11 members of the Muslim Brotherhood in Cairo when he gave his apology speech.

Last week, Obama did what no American president will ever do. That is inviting a Jihadest terrorist organization to have a chance to run a country that was America’s close ally by saying that Muslim Brotherhood needs to be at the table. Clinton cautiously welcomes Brotherhood talks, it is interesting how the State Department use the word cautiously. I guess that will ease people’s mind that this group will be nice if we approach them “Cautiously.”  Read more

WAKE UP AMERICA…. Obama is taking America down the wrong path. VOTE HIM OUT in 2012

The APA Responds to Rep. Allen West


As members of America’s armed forces, unarguably the most disciplined and effective defense force in the world, we do NOT exact revenge, but rather justice against the enemy, however vile and disgusting… even when that justice seems grossly insignificant under the circumstances. It is not our position to make judgment against the enemy ~ we leave that to the will of God. Our responsibility is to arrange that meeting in the most expeditious manner. And we do this for a reason…~Robert Phillip Dean
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